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Discussion:
How Long Should a Horse be at the Breakers? | Andrew
Soper
 | Amanda
Howell  | Francesca
Christie  | Les
Bunning
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Soper - Western
There is no one answer to this question. Every
horse and situation requires a different program. I like to have a program in
mind before sending a horse off to the breakers but this is always subject to
change in accordance with how the horse progresses. I am fortunate that I am able
to send my breakers to someone I have complete trust in and whose skills will
give my youngsters the best start possible. I get an honest evaluation of each
horse and I am guided by them as to how long the horse needs to spend in their
breaking in phase.The
main factors that need to be considered when determining how long your horse needs
to spend at the breakers includes the temperament of the horse, your riding capabilities
and experience with riding young horses, the type of riding you wish to pursue,
the facilities you have to ride your horse in and how often you can ride your
horse when it comes home. | |
The
temperament of your horse can make a huge difference to the length of time. A
relaxed, easy going, quiet horse that is willing and accepting of the tasks asked
of them will take a lot less time than a timid, nervy horse that may be defensive
and unwilling to accept the breaking in process. Not to say that the relaxed horse
will turn out the better of the two. Often the timid horse with consistent work
will become quite good, I would just be inclined to give a timid horse more time
to become more solid with the work program. I have found a good thing for a timid
horse is to take them to a point where they are achieving the tasks asked of them,
then give them a spell for 2 to 4 weeks and take them back to the breakers for
a refresher before tackling the training program yourself. You're
riding capabilities and experience with young horses makes a big difference to
the time required. The most important riding capabilities when riding youngsters
is to have good balance, independent hands and seat and to be confident. If you're
not sure as to how you're going to go riding your youngster then leave them with
the breaker for as long as you can and have lots of lessons when the horse is
ready for you to ride. Don't take your horse home until both you and the breaker
are confident in your riding; try to go back for lessons on a regular basis if
you can. If you have another horse to ride do so to keep yourself fit and build
confidence whilst you're waiting for your youngster to progress. The
type of riding you wish to pursue may require the breaker to spend more time putting
specific basics on your horse. For example if you are pursuing Western disciplines
then you may want your horse to go freely on a loose rein, know it's leads and
have a back up and side pass established. If you want to do trail riding then
the breaker could spend a lot of time on your horse riding them up the road and
with other horses.
The facilities you have to ride your horse in makes a big difference as to when
you can take your horse home. A round pen is perhaps the most important piece
of equipment you can have for riding a young horse. Other facilities such as a
fenced arena is of great benefit as well access to good riding trails or quiet
roads can make your task a lot easier. If you can ride in company do so, the more
exposure your horse gets the better and probably the more relaxed and confident
you'll get too. Finally
it is important that a youngster is ridden on a consistent basis, generally 4-5
rides per week. If you work full-time, have family commitments or just generally
don't have a lot of time to dedicate to your horse riding then the longer you
can leave your horse with the breaker the better. In this situation having as
many lessons and rides at the breakers before bringing your horse home the better.
Many owners get disillusioned when their lovely going youngster doesn't continue
on with their learning ways when they bring them home. It can be as much to do
with the routine that is established at the breakers that advances your horse
as the work that they do. If you just expect to be able to ride them when it suits
you when you get them home, then you may be disappointed. Do
your homework on who to send your horse to. Ask to see their facilities and ask
them all about their training program. Someone that has nothing to hide won't
have any problems with these questions. Ask people whose opinion you value who
they recommend. Don't ask every body or you'll get so many conflicting reports
you'll be totally confused. No one person will keep everybody happy!!! Discuss
with the breaker a program for you and your horse and try to keep your part of
the bargain as best you can as you only have one chance to get this right the
first time, you cannot un-teach a bad habit or vice, only discourage it and this
isn't always successful. Do
some good preparation and I'm sure you'll have many years of wonderful riding
with your youngster. 'Happy
Riding' Andrew Soper Back
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|  | Amanda
Howell - Eventing Each
horse is an individual, so the amount of handling, & how much experience you
have with young horses, will determine how long you should leave it with your
breaker. There are a number of factors you may want to consider when sending your
horse off to be broken -
1) Your horses breed - some breeds mature a lot
faster than others. Thoroughbreds, for example, are broken in & raced by the
time they are 2 years old. Heavier breeds take longer to mature - for example,
an Irish Sporthorse that is estimated to mature around 17hands, will take years
more to grow & fill out, so it may be more sensible to wait until the horse
is 3-4 years old, when his body is physically stronger to cope with the new work.
Joints may not have matured & you will be stressing a weak frame, if you put
too much pressure, weight & stress on the legs of a physically weak &
immature horse.
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Your horses' temperament - a calmer & more trainable horse will respond quicker
& more willingly to the new experiences of being broken in. Some horses that
have a tendency to be cold backed, for example, will require more time to adjust
to being girthed up than others. If behavioral problems arise along the way, these
need to be addressed before you can progress to the next step.
3) Your
horses' natural balance & coordination - sorry, but some horses are just straighter,
more balanced, & more coordinated than others! Some horses will be gangly
& have legs that seem like an octopus, others might go with their heads up
in the air - it all depends on the horses' natural build & movement.
4)
How much handling your horse has had - if you have regularly handled your horse,
it leads, ties up, has had its feet trimmed, has been brushed, worn rugs, even
had a roller on, then it will be more prepared to be mouthed, girthed up &
ridden. If your horse is going to be a giant, then it may be useful to break him
in, then turn him out to mature, so at least he's been handled when he's not huge
& potentially too big to handle if naughty.
5) Your experience with
young horses - If you have had a lot of experience with young horses, then you
may be able to handle your horse at a greener stage & do some of the finishing
education yourself. This also depends on whether you have the facilities to train
your youngster - a round yard, enclosed riding areas, quiet tracks. If not, then
its advisable that you ask your breaker to take your horse through as many of
the situations you may face before you take your horse home. The
most important thing is that your horse is broken in suitably for you to handle
& ride. It is a good idea to visit your horse & watch the process of it's
breaking in, so you can learn how to handle your horse & any of its quirks.
You are better off spending money on a longer time at the breakers, than on hospital
& vets bills if you skimp on the breaking in! Amanda
Howell Back
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Francesca
Christie - Showing How
long should a horse be at the breakers? Well
now, thats a Question
I do all my own breaking except for the first three rides. Well,
time is something you need plenty of and be prepared to take and allow time if
you want a good job done. Do not put anybody under pressure
it is your horses
whole future! | |
The most important
rule if you are an owner is do not think you might know what you are doing.
Many horses have been ruined by people thinking it cannot be hard. I will just
start mouthing him - STOP! Do not put the bridle in his mouth.There
is a definitely a right and a wrong way, and a right and a wrong time. There is
respect and no respect, and there is good fear and bad fear, and best you do not
interfere! Find
a professional that you trust How
do I trust them? Well, I start by listening to them. If they say
it
should take X amount of time but it all depends on the horse and I can only go
as fast as he will let me... dont think about the money, think about
his whole future. If your breaker then says,
the most important part
is mouthing him and all horses are different
then you know that you
have jumped on the right tram.
As in all my experience if you mouth a horse correctly, which sometimes takes
weeks, the horse will let a good breaker know when he is ready to ride, and 90%
of the time (that is great odds) the horse will walk, trot and canter on his first
ride. Be happy no one has been bucked off and your breaker is not trying to sue
because you sent him a totally spoiled over handled precious pony that you adore
and have driven mad from the moment his mother popped him out! Do not take away
there natural instincts, remember the reason they let us ride them is due to good
fear, developed through herd instincts, the pecking order. So
the answer
is give them all the time they need. Enjoy Francesca
Christie Back to Top |  | Les
Bunning - ShowJumping
This
is not a question a lot of us have to answer, because there is only a small percentage
of riders that breed or buy an unbroken youngster. But if you are one of those
who have to make that decision, many factors determine how long you would leave
your horse at the breakers for. These factors may be: Is the horse for an experienced
rider who might be able to take on a green broken horse and educate him. Or you
may be a professional that has not got the time to do the early work on a young
one and prefer that it stay at the breakers a bit longer.
You may not
be confident to take on the responsibility of training a just broken horse.All
these scenarios can determine how long to leave your horse with a breaker.
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Once at
the breakers the horses temperament and attitude to being broken in may also determine
how long he will be with the breaker. As a rule, most horse breakers take between
four and six weeks to get a horse mouthed and ridden to a standard were a competent
rider can ride them,but if you think about the above scenarios one might decide
to leave a horse anywhere from eight to ten weeks.
A responsible breaker
should be able to tell you if your horse is ready for you. And keeping that in
mind, it is very important point. Always choose a well recommended breaker and
I feel if you are wanting to end up with a performance horse, you need to find
a breaker that has some knowledge about the discipline in which the horse will
end up in.
Some difficult horses are better in a breakers yard that relies
on a strict routine (ie someone specializes in breaking in gallopers) and has
a good reputation of turning out horses with good manners.
When you go
to the breakers to pick your horse up, I would ride him there first and make sure
he can trot a circle on both rins and canter on both reins on the correct leg
and importantly starts to halt when asked. He also needs to tie up and stands
to be hosed down ( I cross tie all my horses young and old stops them from fidgeting).
Remember,
it is what happens after your horse leaves the breakers that will determine how
well he goes on with the rest of his competition days. If you are not confident
in taking your horse through the early stages you might be better leaving your
horse at the breakers a bit longer or send him to a professional trainer in your
chosen discipline until he is right for you.
All the best Les
Bunning Back
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